DecILTattleTale
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 10:08:16 AM
Looks good to me.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:24:02 AM
The home site also is where your local point ranking is listed.
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 1:35:27 AM
Insist on reading hidden meanings into what? I explained that it might be a help in limited ways to the OP, nothing more. You insist on repeating your previous points. The OP gave his own views on this matter and has more than been satisfied with the first two answers. And all I'm saying is that your answer sir was to interject insult toward the OP that sure sounded to me as though contributing or being ranked was a prerequisite to asking a question or for help because then the OP would then be doing something as opposed to your stated position "I have never once said or implied that anyone has to has to do anything".
For one thing, I must sure "seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a 'home site' does." If it bothers you so much when folks then ask to have their home site(s) changed, then perhaps you should start another topic and suggest that Gas Buddy's home sites be removed for all members. Because after all, and apparently it sure does seem to you, "Nobody else knows or cares what your home site is because to the rest of us, you don't really exist.".
I guess you might say we have a difference of opinion on this and since I don't run this site I'm sure not going to attempt to clarify this on behalf of any of the owners or moderators. So on this note, good luck to you.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 10:25:45 PM
Why insist on reading hidden meanings into this?
I asked a question. Why does your home site matter? I made an assertion, it doesn't matter. I explained why it doesn't matter. It is just a word that appears next to your name. If you don't participate, nobody else sees that word and you actually have to go out of your way to see that word. How important is a word that only one person sees and only if he has to search to find it?
Look back at everything I wrote and that is all I am saying.
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 1:22:45 AM
Enough of the side show.
In his last post, Scrapheap wrote "I have never once said or implied that anyone has to has to do anything to ask a question. Nor does anyone have to clear anything with me."
First Scrapheap, I hope that I did not suggest that anybody had to clear anything with you. But I'm happy that they don't.
Earlier Scrapheap wrote: "When it comes to people who don't contribute who want their home site changed, I wonder, why bother? You aren't ranked anywhere."
My read was that you (Scrapheap) were implying that the OP didn't contribute anything, so why should he or she bother asking for anything from other members. (Sounded like a put down to me because it sounded as if contributing was a prerequisite to asking a question or for help because then the OP would then be doing something) But, I guess however you are not implying that the OP should be prevented from asking the question or for help in resolving his or her perceived problem. Did I interpret this correctly or not? If not, what am I misinterpreting?
Right after your question, your statement, "You aren't ranked anywhere.", sounded to me like a continued put down as it appeared you were suggesting or implying that the OP should be "ranked" before asking a question or for help, otherwise, like you said "why bother?". Sounded to me like "being ranked" should be considered some kind of prerequisite, otherwise "why bother?" asking a question or for some kind of help.
I just want to make sure that I understand your position, that's all because it was not clear to me. Please be assured that I am not trying to correct you. I'm just trying to understand you.
Believe me, I fully agreed with your corrected statement "I also think it is perfectly reasonable to ask someone why they are asking a question."
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2012 8:58:24 AM
The last sentence of my last post should have read "I also think it is perfectly reasonable to ask someone why they are asking a question."
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2012 8:52:26 AM
jpgredwine wrote > Having a home site makes it easier because you don't need to log into any 'home' site to enter your local forum, because you are already in it each time your logged into GB, that happens on my 'home' site.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a 'home site' does. It is nothing more than a word that appears next to your name on some pages of the site. Nothing more. Furthermore, you do indeed have to log onto your home site, at least the first time. If I moved to Hartford, I could log into the Hartford site. The system can automatically log me on every time after my first visit. I could access the Hartford forum. I don't need to change my 'home' site from Virginia. I don't have to visit the Virginia site ever again. I frequently go to the Washington DC, Maryland, Rochester and Dallas sites. I never have to actually log on because all that information has been saved on a cookie. I am automatically logged on as soon as the connection is complete, just like with Virginia. The only difference between all my non-home sites and my home site is that if I click on the local point leaders list, my name will not be there.
In the case of the OP, he could have just logged on to the Corpus Christi site and kept the 'Remember My ID and Password' checked, which is the default.
jpgredwine wrote > Your reply beginning with "No..." is contradictory. Were you attempting to quote me without quotes?
I quoted you. It is immediately above the statement starting with "No ..." I don't see how I can make the quote any clearer.
My statement is self consistent and quite correct. It directly contradicts yours. Having a 'home site' does not make it easier to post prices, look at maps, etc. Those functions are solely affected by the site you log onto, home site or not.
The rest of your post was very difficult to read both because of sentence structure and your assertions that I implied things that I don't believe and did not express. I have never once said or implied that anyone has to has to do anything to ask a question. Nor does anyone have to clear anything with me.
I also perfectly reasonable to ask someone why they are asking a question.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 6:58:52 AM
iflyabeech is effectively a new member here, despite the early join date. So, with that in mind: Welcome to the site, and we hope you'll stick around and be a contributing member.
My recommendation would be that you chalk up the current tiff to an unfortunate miscommunication, and don't count someone as unfriendly unless you observe a regular pattern. (There are some people who do seem to match that pattern fairly often, but the one you got upset with is usually on the opposite side of the disagreements when that happens.)
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 6:41:00 AM
WOW! If Scrapheap is actually posting stuff like that, I'm amazed because he would call me out if I posted stuff like that!
iflyabeech ,FAQ #40 will answer your question.
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 4:59:10 PM
Scrap, your answer is what it is, my feelings of whether or not I like it or are irrevalent.
* Having a home site makes it easier because you don't need to log into any 'home' site to enter your local forum, because you are already in it each time your logged into GB, that happens on my 'home' site. Everybody may have a different opinion about 'what is easier or not'. And it's simply a tiny benefit, that's all, nothing more.
* Your reply beginning with "No..." is contradictory. Were you attempting to quote me without quotes?
* I never questioned once whether you "once said the OP should not be able to ask a question". You must have misunderstood me. If your pointing out, as you did, that with zero visibility, you continue to wonder why the home site matters, I only answered from my perspective. Now, as you can read from what appears to be a very frustrated and irritated OP, and member, iflyabeech, all this member wanted was to ask a simple question, get a simple answer, which he did, without any further grilling as to what his motivation was, or being called any names (not by you but by another member) unfortunately, it appears that happened. Unfortunately as well, the OP engages in his/her own rant. No need for name calling or such from any side.
* As long as visibility or ranking is out of play for asking a question, I have no issue. I never questioned whether "it neither helps nor impedes your ability to use any function on this site". I agree with this statement, and it's nice to know and hopefully it'll make me feel warm and fuzzy all night, however, as I read from the OP's answer he doesn't need to know all of that. (at least that is my interpretation of this read).
*The OP doesn't need to provide a skat amount of forum participation or visibility or "rational" for asking a question. Therefore, neither would nor should I, nor you or anyone else be questioned either, whether or not I, or you, or anybody else have visibility or participation. If this member MUST provide such (as you imply", than everybody should and, with every question asked. I think that by asking for such info, it appears that you are just asking to be nosy (and according to the OP, it's none of your business. UNLESS of course you wanted or needed that info in order to provide the OP with a substantially focused and rewarding answer, but it appears that you didn't do that and that you instead questioned the OP's ability to ask his/her question without first answering to you even after the OP had already his/her answer from others. You further questioned the OP's asking their question by making the statement "With zero visibility, I can not understand why the home sie matters".
* "You pretty much stayed out of it". OK. I'll certainly not be the judge of that.
* (to you previous reply) ...I never meant to suggest that you (Scrap) ever called the OP any names. That was an issue that I was addressing to the member referring to the OP as a "minimalist" even after the OP had been well answered.
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iflyabeech
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 1:12:47 PM
I just asked a question.. I don't give a damn about where I am ranked, or who can see me or what. I think its hilarious that scrap heap feels its important to pick on me for asking a question. I bet you aren't as outspoken IRL.. Internet bullies.. lol
What difference does it make why I wanted to change it and what business is it of yours? I asked a simple question and got a simple answer. No need for your whining about why I want to change it. I did not ask if the home site mattered or not, and I don't give a damn, I just wanted to change it. And I don't really give a damn if that meets your standard of if I can ask a freaking question or not? Get off your internet high horse partner... Noone in the real world cares that you spend a large part of your life accumulating points that you are proud enough to berate someone else over on ..Give me a break... Now go back to your internet porn!
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 11:48:26 AM
jpgredwine wrote > *A "home" site makes it easier to post prices, look at maps, etc.
No it doesn't. Your ease of posting prices, looking at maps etc is solely affected by what site you log onto. You're home site has absolutely no bearing on this.
jpgredwine wrote > Visibility or ranking should not be an issue to ask any question (Even if the OP is 'not visible' to him/herself or others
I never once said the OP should not be able to ask a question. I am pointing out that with zero visibility, I can not understand why the home site matters. It neither helps nor impedes your ability to use any function on this site.
jpgredwine wrote > It shouldn't matter if this is the OP's 1st post, so why question it?
If the OP was taking part in the forums he would have some visibility and might be able to come up with some rational as to why the home site matters. With zero visibility, I can not understand why the home site matters.
jpgredwine wrote > Seems like the only issue was for the OP to find a way to change his/her home site and that was already well represented by the 1st two posters.
Agreed. I pretty much stayed out of this thread because the OP's question had been answered. You asked another question. I answered it. Sorry if you don't like the answer.
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 11:13:06 AM
(I'm virtually "on the road" traveling from Myrtle Beach, S.C. to CT. ... I apologize ... no full true response until I reach home Monday).
*No real "lying" issue here.
*A "home" site makes it easier to post prices, look at maps, etc.
(I understand you can log in from anywhere)
*Visibility or ranking should not be an issue to ask any question (Even if the OP is 'not visible' to him/herself or others
*It shouldn't matter if this is the OP's 1st post, so why question it?
*It's up to the OP to decide whether or not it's an issue or not or the OP has to go out of his/her way or not to see it. Other members like myself shouldn't really care about what is seen or not by others unless they present it as an issue. If it's an issue to them, well maybe we can help them.
*I think the difficulty or ease of posting prices is the OP's and in this case it was not presented as an issue. If there is a way to make things on this site LESS difficult, then YEAH.
--- Seems like the only issue was for the OP to find a way to change his/her home site and that was already well represented by the 1st two posters.
**Lastly, I'm still getting familiar with regular posters and I do appreciate some of your past posts that I've read.
**Yes Scout, it would be appreciated if most members participated, read all the FAQ's etc. But why needle any individual member? There's no requirement to contribute a single brain cell on this site. But yes, it would be nice. On the other hand, if they've nothing to say or in this case, forgot their own name or password and just remembered it, lets just take them at their word. It just seems pointless from a pure viewpoint of trying to HELP another member that somehow they get to feel insulted. That's all. I'd like to help prevent that sort of stuff. But not always, and not everyday, I surely don't have that sort of time on my hands.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 8:54:00 AM
jpgredwine - If you look at my typical response to low point total people who ask questions or suggest web site improvements, I think you will see that typically, usually, generally, I answer their questions and defend them from people who do not believe they should be heard. Typically, usually, generally, I do that if they are unless they are obviously lying. An example of an obvious liar would be someone with a long standing acccount and a tiny point total who asks for a change in point earning ability and claims that he posts far more than 5 prices per day every day. That said, I am not calling the OP a liar and I appreciate what you are trying to do here in this thread.
However, when it comes to this topic you asked "I don't quite know why some folks appear to question some other posters' motives or interests or call them names just because they ask a question." Without calling the OP any names, when it comes to this issue, the answer is, your home site doesn't matter. You can log into any site, look at any map, report prices anywhere you like, contribute to any forum. If you haven't earned more than 35K points, you don't appear on the point leaders lists and have no visible rank. Until this thread, the OP never posted in any forum. In this case, your home site is nothing but a word and you have to go out of your way, to your profile, to see.
In terms of ease of posting prices, your home site does not matter. What might make a difference is what site you log into but it is no more difficult to log onto the Bismark ND site than the Corpus Christi site, the Hartford site or the Virginia site.
[Edited by: Scrapheap at 3/31/2012 8:56:07 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 8:38:48 AM
Did Scrapheap actually say that? Nuh uh?
Nothing says you have to contribute. It would be very nice is people did. And since the OP isn't really contributing what's the big deal?
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 2:05:45 AM
"iflyabeech", I see you were able to change your home site from Florida to Corpus Christi, Tx. Great. Best of luck posting prices. I hope you have a better experience on this website than it appears you encountered recently.
"Scrapheap", where on this site does it say anybody has to "contribute" anything before they ask any question? Kind of ridiculous, huh? Also, maybe it's easier to post prices from your true "home" site rather than from some other place like, ohh ... Bismark, N.D. And, if you continue to think it may be no big deal, then email a moderator to have your home site of Virginia be changed to Bismark. See for yourself if it really makes any difference. Also your local "home" forum might be switched too. Also, if your trying to zone in on some member that might be reporting inaccurate prices, you might like to know his/her home state or locale. Don't know if it would make any difference to you, but maybe it meant something for iflyabeech as well as other members of GasBuddy. And I do take exception to your comment that "because to the rest of us, you don't really exist". Why don't you speak for yourself if that's how you feel. You sure as heck don't represent me when you speak like this as it sounds condescending, rude and bullying, sort of how iflyabeech accurately described those few comments. From his last post Iflyabeech sounded quite upset. What's the point of upsetting other members? This just makes no sense to me.
How about we all tone it down a bit and simply answer other member's questions or comments with facts and keep out the attacks and other emotional elements from our answers? That would be a nice web site improvement.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 1:23:09 AM
I still ask, what difference does you home site make?
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iflyabeech
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 3:08:55 PM
Wow.. What a bunch of rude people leaving messages to me on here. Thank you to the ones that helped. I had used this years ago, and I just remembered my old login name. What business is it of yours how often I update this.. I just asked a question.
And by the way, I think just about every post I have made has been within the last couple of weeks. so lay off and find something better to do rather than bullying some innocent person on and internet message board.... sheesh!!
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 8:32:15 AM
When it comes to people who don't contribute who want their home site changed, I wonder, why bother? You aren't ranked anywhere. You can log into any site and use any site. Nobody else knows or cares what your home site is because to the rest of us, you don't really exist. What difference does your home site make?
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:50:25 AM
I agree with jpgredwine -- there's no reason to throw mud. Note the "haven't lived there in over 5 years" comment, which could mean "I just came back to this account after a long absence, and found that my password still works".
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jpgredwine
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:06:00 AM
I don't quite know why some folks appear to question some other posters' motives or interests or call them names just because they ask a question. And who really cares how many points a person has that somehow ends up submitting that person to ridicule. It all just sounds so childish and moronic to me.
Also Gas_Buddy it may make a difference if that person clicks on "Gas Price Maps" .. "Map Gas Prices", because it appears (at least on my home site) that your home site determines what 'home' map will pop up.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 1:04:00 PM
I'm sorry for sounding cynical, but unless you're intending to post a little more frequently than you have been, why even worry? With one gas price post every six months, a home site change won't really make any difference.
However, assuming that you're going to be posting gas prices, what kwzh wrote links you to how to change your home site; the process for change is to contact the moderators.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 11:09:02 AM
A minimalist.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 9:04:53 AM
6 years....2,970 points?
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 5:17:56 AM
This is explained in FAQ #40. You might want to check out the rest of that document while you're there; it has lots of good info.
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mwjones
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 1:25:37 AM
In the menu, click on Help then Contact Us.
The moderators have to modify your home site (I had to do this earlier this year when I moved from Houston to Dallas boards).
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