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CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,220 Points:1,683,315 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 2:35:55 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse A week or so ago I read an essay by evangelical journalist and author Warren Cole Smith, suggesting that voting for a Mormon – any Mormon – was a less than responsible thing to do. I found its logic profoundly disturbing. Some very good conversations between evangelicals and members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have been going on for years. I hope there will be more, and that they’ll be instructive and mutually respectful. Conversation is the beginning of understanding. But too often we see reactions to old stereotypes, like this one. So here is my open letter to Warren Cole Smith in response to his assertions. The rest of the blog

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A week or so ago I read an essay by evangelical journalist and author Warren Cole Smith, suggesting that voting for a Mormon – any Mormon – was a less than responsible thing to do. I found its logic profoundly disturbing.
Some very good conversations between evangelicals and members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have been going on for years. I hope there will be more, and that they’ll be instructive and mutually respectful. Conversation is the beginning of understanding. But too often we see reactions to old stereotypes, like this one. So here is my open letter to Warren Cole Smith in response to his assertions.

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tankerCA Champion Author Chico Posts:2,682 Points:370,300 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:08:01 PM Ignore tankerCA Report Abuse I think that most evangelicals aren't concerned about voting for a LDS whose values on family, marriage and fiscal responsibility parallel their own. Too bad there is so much election fraud. I really believe the fix was in on this election in which whole sections of Pennsylvania had not one vote for Romney. Not one - really?In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,352 Points:560,695 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:32:05 AM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse I have it on good authority that tonight at a prayer meeting in Massachusetts, Fundamentalists prayed for a Mormon who's running for President and a pro-abortion liberal Republican who's running for re-election to the Senate. Strange times, indeed!
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,352 Points:560,695 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 8:52:30 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Thanks for the lead, geekguy. I finally got around to reading the Cobabe article, and it's certainly definitive. The matters I was bringing up were not intended to advocated one way or another; I was only observing and commenting. I was simply stating that LDS would be thrown into a common lot with other conservative constituencies, and treated derisively. On purely political forums, some conservatives are expecting that Romeney will be denigrated by defamation of LDS as a last-ditch effort. There have been some inept attempts, such as Whoopi Goldberg's interview with Ann Romney. (She was grossly ignorant of the sect, thinking LDS is pacifist.) I brought up the "White Horse Prophesy" simply because I was expecting pro-Obama pundits to use it as a means to tar Romney. So far, they haven't thrown much anti-LDS mud, and the little they've thrown hasn't stuck.
geekguy Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,504 Points:1,331,695 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 1:13:07 AM Ignore geekguy Report Abuse Hi traffic cop. Yes, the LDS now states that Joseph Smith was not accurately recorded in the White Horse Prophecy. See this paper for details. However the simpler fact is that the JOD and Brigham Young's discourses both record it earlier than that paper states. I personally don't choose to discuss politics on this board, so I'll avoid that topic.
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,352 Points:560,695 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 10:17:20 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Thought it might be interesting to resurrect this thread. I heard on the radio, geekguy, that the White Horse Prophesy has been disavowed by the LDS church. Anybody have any info on that, and can it be sourced? I don't think it matters for much; I'm just curious. Looking at Soutxed's post (women resistant to Romney) of July 2011, wow, things sure have changed lately--and fast, too! Gallup just released a poll showing Romney now moving ahead of Obama with the female vote. It seems that (at this point in the campaign) the charge of a Romney/Mormon/Republican/Tea Party/whatever "war against women" isn't working. Women are more concerned about jobs and financial security, not that Federal agents will be be raiding their medicine cabinets and confiscating birth-control pills. Rather than being frightened off, they see Romney as more likely to look after the core issues of economics, budgetary restraint, and national security.
geekguy Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,504 Points:1,331,695 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2011 11:29:48 PM Ignore geekguy Report Abuse Isn't the White Horse Prophecy a reason many are uncomfortable with an LDS chief executive?
bryceisright Champion Author Utah Posts:3,423 Points:760,015 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2011 3:34:17 PM Ignore bryceisright Report Abuse This is great feed back. Thanks your honesty. I grew up and live in Utah, but went to High School in Mississippi and served my Mission in South Carolina. I believe the South is warming up to Mormons. I think either Hunstman and Romney would be great but Huntsman is too unknown. I think Huntsman is trying to down play the LDS faith because it hurt Romney last time. This approach has hurt him with some of the LDS crowd, but I think this same crowd would still vote for him. I'm not sure what the big deal with the world's view of the LDS church "position on women." They have different roles in church leadership that men are not able to be in. I've heard people say in Utah bank managers will not talk business with women without their husband present. This may have been the case 70 years ago just like the rest of the country might have been. I grew up with my mother raising the family and managing the household issues which included going to the bank. This was my mom's choice. My mom was and still is the boss. My wife wants the same thing. She does not want an outside job. My sister and my brother's wife both have jobs and earn more than their husbands. I bank with Wellsfargo and have not met a male manager in years at any of the branches I use.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,220 Points:1,683,315 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2011 3:27:20 PM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse soutxed may have a point. There are man misconceptions regarding LDS beliefs and status. These surely will be obstacles for Romney.
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,669 Points:2,236,170 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 10, 2011 11:06:34 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse Based on the LDS church's position on women, I think Romey will find it difficult to get the support of female voters if this becomes an issue. Also, among my middle class friends in South Texas, the LDS church is considered a church of the rich. I do agree Romey may be a better choice than what is in office now, as a political observer, I find it may be difficult for him to win. Some of my evangelical Christian friends are finding a choice between a Mormon and a Muslim as no choice at all. Do not jump on me, this is what I hear at church and in the local coffee shop.
tankerCA Champion Author Chico Posts:2,682 Points:370,300 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2011 9:51:02 AM Ignore tankerCA Report Abuse As an Evangelical, who disagrees with Mormon doctrine, I must say that I respect the Mormon church for its stand with regard to California's Prop. 8. Of the Mormons running for office, any one of them would be better than what we have in the WH now, and Romney is the only Republican (so far) that can change that.