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JT Moderator	Message Posted: Mar 6, 2005 12:01:05 AM Ignore JT Report Abuse Is technology being secretly covered-up that would substantially improve fuel economy in today's vehicles? Yes - Covered-up No - Does not exist Not Sure/Don't know Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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Is technology being secretly covered-up that would substantially improve fuel economy in today's vehicles?
Yes - Covered-up
No - Does not exist
Not Sure/Don't know

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YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2008 6:55:45 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2008 6:55:37 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes - Covered-up
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2008 6:54:49 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse yes - easier to peddle existing cheap products than try to hawk expensive new technology
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2008 6:54:27 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes,, In the USA
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2008 6:54:04 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes for sure, there must be a substitute for oil out there, the truth is out there!
Crywolfe Rookie Author Illinois Posts:30 Points:550 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 28, 2008 8:36:26 AM Ignore Crywolfe Report Abuse I think the government lets us know what they want us to know and what they dont want us to know its a "hush hush"
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 28, 2008 8:31:09 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse Short answer - NO Many technologies, such as the Wankel, are well known so they are obviously not "being secretly covered-up". Copies of issued patents are available free on the U.S. Patent Department web site. In many cases the patents have already expired so anyone can practice the technology for free. In most cases, vehicle producers believe that the technologies either do not work, are too expensive to produce or that their customers would not buy them. if "someone" would do enough research & development work on them, some of them might eventually be practical.
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:8,475 Points:1,669,245 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 27, 2008 11:37:05 PM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse MikeRock is right about the Wankel Engine... wonderful powerplant that was buried... I am sure there were others... There are too many greedy people that thwart the good of many others... Unfortunately it doesn't take too many rotten apples to spoil the barrel... so to speak!
gasisoutrageous Champion Author Lansing Posts:8,580 Points:925,105 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2008 6:45:43 PM Ignore gasisoutrageous Report Abuse Uh, sure let's go with that- yes. Government and oil companies want more money. Why do you think it took so long to develop mass-produced hydrogen cars and re-fueling stations? [Edited by: gasisoutrageous at 7/13/2008 6:46:59 PM EST]
rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,105 Points:393,320 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2008 10:47:52 PM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse No.
Philmar Sophomore Author Cleveland Posts:248 Points:76,475 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 28, 2008 7:10:27 PM Ignore Philmar Report Abuse Yes. I've believed this for many years.
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,260 Points:2,541,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2008 9:28:39 PM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse no
Quazar911 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,070 Points:514,305 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2008 8:38:20 PM Ignore Quazar911 Report Abuse No-if anything, I think the technology is "puposely delayed"
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,260 Points:2,541,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2008 1:10:36 AM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse No
Quazar911 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,070 Points:514,305 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2008 11:38:39 PM Ignore Quazar911 Report Abuse No, I don't think so
KNARF5151 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,148 Points:177,735 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 1, 2008 11:04:55 AM Ignore KNARF5151 Report Abuse yes
Guido4 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:13,039 Points:2,669,390 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2008 6:45:23 AM Ignore Guido4 Report Abuse Yes - Covered-up
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2008 5:31:52 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2008 5:31:43 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2008 5:30:59 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse yes - easier to peddle existing cheap products than try to hawk expensive new technology
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2008 5:30:29 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes,, In the USA
YB1234 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,565 Points:1,739,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 10, 2008 5:29:55 PM Ignore YB1234 Report Abuse Yes for sure, there must be a substitute for oil out there, the truth is out there!
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,260 Points:2,541,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 8:07:56 AM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse no
azcarman Champion Author Phoenix Posts:13,068 Points:2,793,535 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:59:53 AM Ignore azcarman Report Abuse RJR54 has a good point. When we bring out more efficient care they do not sell well. On the other hand the bigger more expensive gas hops fly from the dealerships.
rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,105 Points:393,320 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:26:43 AM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse High efficiency cars are available in Europe and Asia. But they just don't sell here. Recently I kicked the tires on a Smart Car but was surprized (shocked) to see that it had a lot more power and a lot lower efficiency. It seems the Canadian version has a lot bigger motor - bummer. There are so many models by so many makers it is hard to settle on an example. For those of you who what a nicer car that comfortably seats 5 adults you might want to try the Audi A2. It is a hot seller in Europe and uses about 2.8 litres per 100 Km or 100 miles per gallon - about 80 miles per American gallon. High efficiency vehicles currently exist. They are not purchased in North America. The high efficiency vehicles have always existed. For example, one of the popular cars in France in the 1960's was the Citroen 2CV, which got 120 m/g - 100 miles per American gallon. Heck, the Model A went 70 miles on a gallon of gas on a decent road (rare in those days). It seems to me the answer is: High efficiency cars are anywhere but North America. Why? Probably because we have the cheapest fuel in the world. And $3/gallon is cheap, Europe and Asia pay more than twice that. As the price goes up we will buy more of the efficient models. Currently the F150 outsells the Escort by 5:1, if the price of gas was $6 I think it might start to even out some. There is no cover up - Americans do not want efficient cars. They want big cars with lots of horse-power.
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,982 Points:2,464,695 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2007 8:48:55 AM Ignore throttle Report Abuse no
kelljohn Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,203 Points:1,681,470 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2007 7:15:55 PM Ignore kelljohn Report Abuse No - Does not exist
Guido4 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:13,039 Points:2,669,390 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2007 6:48:47 AM Ignore Guido4 Report Abuse I believe it is a covered-up
Blubberpuppy Champion Author Baltimore Posts:18,350 Points:1,901,910 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 16, 2007 10:03:58 AM Ignore Blubberpuppy Report Abuse Yes I'm waiting for warp drive engines to be downgraded from classified information so the automakers start prototype research.
buddydill Champion Author Kentucky Posts:9,794 Points:2,428,485 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2007 6:38:42 PM Ignore buddydill Report Abuse yes
Panama19 Champion Author Louisville Posts:25,260 Points:2,541,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2007 12:07:56 AM Ignore Panama19 Report Abuse no
rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,105 Points:393,320 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2007 11:51:30 PM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse Covered up no. Are the oil companies and car companies doing everything they legally can to keep consumption high? Yes.
Guido4 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:13,039 Points:2,669,390 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2007 6:41:21 AM Ignore Guido4 Report Abuse Yes - Covered-up
GasXing Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,192 Points:1,846,985 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2007 11:42:44 PM Ignore GasXing Report Abuse Not sure, but if there is any kind of cover-up, someone ought to be ashamed of themselves for withhold something so valuable from the public.
Bear_Johnson Champion Author London Posts:1,440 Points:502,110 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2007 4:37:34 PM Ignore Bear_Johnson Report Abuse Milking the current system for every $ they can get and stalling the alternatives, true breakthroughs hidden, probably not
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,982 Points:2,464,695 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2007 3:36:51 PM Ignore throttle Report Abuse No...the information would be worth a fortune...so why cover it up?
Dorkchop Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,380 Points:1,793,515 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2007 11:55:46 AM Ignore Dorkchop Report Abuse The government won't release the technology from Area 51 which would give us flying cars because it would kill the oil industry and wreck the economy.
Quazar911 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,070 Points:514,305 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2007 7:41:04 AM Ignore Quazar911 Report Abuse No, I don't think so
buddydill Champion Author Kentucky Posts:9,794 Points:2,428,485 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 26, 2007 12:36:16 AM Ignore buddydill Report Abuse yes
john382 Champion Author Illinois Posts:12,494 Points:2,474,760 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2007 12:11:03 PM Ignore john382 Report Abuse Don't know
truckdude Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,265 Points:1,333,820 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2007 8:51:37 AM Ignore truckdude Report Abuse yes
Quazar911 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,070 Points:514,305 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 28, 2007 9:36:55 AM Ignore Quazar911 Report Abuse No
dongo50 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:14,678 Points:2,378,095 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2007 7:55:14 AM Ignore dongo50 Report Abuse yes, years ago.
buddydill Champion Author Kentucky Posts:9,794 Points:2,428,485 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2007 12:06:32 AM Ignore buddydill Report Abuse yes bought out by Detroit and oil campanys
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2007 11:13:35 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse As a retired research chemist who worked in a petroleum related field, the answer is no. Conspiracy theories are for the feeble minded.
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,982 Points:2,464,695 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2007 10:50:56 AM Ignore throttle Report Abuse The conspiracy theorists ride again. Come on guys!
truckdude Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,265 Points:1,333,820 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2007 9:16:48 AM Ignore truckdude Report Abuse yes
Quazar911 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,070 Points:514,305 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2007 3:13:09 AM Ignore Quazar911 Report Abuse Dragging their feet-YES, secretly covering up-NO
tacklingfuel Rookie Author Ontario Posts:91 Points:36,950 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: May 31, 2007 3:20:01 PM Ignore tacklingfuel Report Abuse not so much covered up, but just don't care all that much. the end user have to make the fuel economy of a vehicle a demand, instead of demand bigger stereos or more cup holders or dvd players and other stuff that also cause accidents.
truckdude Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,265 Points:1,333,820 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: May 18, 2007 9:29:24 AM Ignore truckdude Report Abuse Yes