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JT

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2009 12:01:00 AM

To furnish needed revenues for highways and transportation, would you favor:
Adding new highway tolls or raising existing tolls
Increasing fuel taxes
Using other taxes (income, sales, real estate)
Increasing registration and other vehicle fees
A combination of the above
No increase; maintain or reduce current fundin
Post your thoughts about this poll below.
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M_Pruz
Rookie Author Flint

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:18:30 PM

Not in favor of paying more but increasing fuel taxes and/or increasing registration and other vehicle fees. This way the ones using the roads the most would be the ones paying the most.
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sonicmustang
All-Star Author Alberta

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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 2:15:17 AM

Increasing registration and other vehicle fees
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achung53
Veteran Author Orange County

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 11:47:57 AM

No increase; maintain or reduce current funding
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pcprof
Champion Author Austin

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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2011 1:15:15 AM

No increase; maintain or reduce current funding. Then use the collected funds for their intended purpose and nothing else.
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randyt58
Champion Author Atlanta

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2011 3:41:30 PM

no increase. cut the waste
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googlee
Champion Author Montreal

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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2011 8:03:33 AM

No increase
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pkhdonovan
Champion Author Maine

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2011 5:26:41 AM

we are paying enough taxes and fees, learn to live within your income
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HardeepWA
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2011 3:15:49 AM

No increase; maintain or reduce current fundin.
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LXH18
Champion Author Los Angeles

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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2011 2:20:55 AM

A combination of adding new highway tolls or raising existing tolls, increasing fuel taxes and registration and other vehicle fees, and using other taxes such as sales or income taxes.
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wrunner
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2011 11:35:33 AM

Highway tolls, fuel taxes, vehicle registration, pay for damage to roadside barriers are some that can be used to pay for road repairs and maintenance.
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g747
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2011 10:45:24 PM

Registration Fees only.
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bja0030
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2010 11:30:52 PM

NO
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SAVEITIL
Champion Author Chicago

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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2010 1:17:46 AM

A combination of the above
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BobD2009
Champion Author Long Island

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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2010 6:40:46 AM

Dedicating a portion of income and sales tax into a trust fund to be used only for roads.
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TAT36
Champion Author Florida

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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2009 1:48:23 PM

New taxes are not the answer. If the current tax collections were used for what they were specifically collected for there would be more than enough money to fix, repair and build new roads. A new tax would only go to the general fund to be raided and spent on other programs the politicians think up.
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saturn96
All-Star Author Indiana

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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2009 10:27:06 AM

no increase,maintain or reduce current funding.government has budgets set aside specifically for these projects,and they need to stick to the budget instead of robbing from one to pay for or ballance another budget.
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saturn96
All-Star Author Indiana

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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2009 9:59:38 AM

no increase, maintain or reduce current funding. government has budgets set aside for this as well as other projects. they need to stick to the intended budget instead of robing from one to balance another budget.
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saturn96
All-Star Author Indiana

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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2009 9:48:43 AM

no increase,maintain or reduce current funding. that's why governments have budgets and that's why they need to stick to the budget that it was intended for, instead of taking from one to pay for another budget.
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MnSwede
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2009 4:43:33 PM

Increasing fuel taxes for roads only, not mass transit
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MnSwede
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2009 2:40:37 PM

Increasing fuel taxes for roads only, not mass transit
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adggjs
Rookie Author Michigan

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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2009 11:53:33 AM

In Michigan, we used to have a Highway Trust Fund into which all motor vehicle taxes, fuel taxes, Federal tire taxes, and Federal Excise Taxes were deposited.

That money was put in trust to build and maintain Roads and Bridges -- only.

Then, it got raided to put Michigan State Police on patrol on the Detroit freeways when Detroit said they didn't have money for freeway patrols. Then it got raided for buses and rapid transit. Then it got raided for rail subsidies. Then it got raided to build bus garages.

You get the picture. The government cannot be trusted to hold our monies "in trust".

Now the Governor wants to build a mag-lev high-speed rail system and wants to raise taxes for roads.

What don't these folks understand?

That is precisely what the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) parties are all about.

We all have to live within our means, even though we give up things we'd really like to have or do.

That would be a great thing for the government to try.

For one, I do not trust the government as they did not keep our "trust".
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MnSwede
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2009 9:35:17 PM

increasing registration fees
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83bj60
Rookie Author Quebec

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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2009 8:43:30 PM

If our governments would stop collecting road and fuel taxes for their own use instead of putting it where it actually belongs, on the road system, we wouldn't have bridges falling down.

Blaming engineers and construction companies for the poor state of our infrastructure is in reality the biggest scandal we are faced with. Of course and as usual, our politicians and lawyers have succeeded yet again convincing the taxpayer it's everyone's fault except their own.

Bravo, M. Pierre-Marc Johnson :(

In case you didn't catch it, I was referring to the inquest following the collapse of the 'Viaduc du Souvenir' in Laval Quebec, a few years ago, but it is as relevant today as it was then.

In other words, where is the option in the questionnaire "finance new roads and repairs from the money that is already collected in taxes but presently siphoned off into general finding"
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mrgroomlake
Rookie Author St. Louis

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Message Posted: May 27, 2009 10:34:51 PM

Take the money that is paid to the goverment local,and state and use it to repair our roads.They have miss used funds for too long.
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MnSwede
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: May 27, 2009 8:40:09 PM

Increasing fuel taxes, but with the increase going to pay maintenance only.
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pkhdonovan
Champion Author Maine

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Message Posted: May 27, 2009 8:14:14 PM

no incease
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dodge62
Rookie Author Detroit

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Message Posted: May 27, 2009 7:18:41 PM

charge us for the air we have
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jaguar01
Rookie Author Austin

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Message Posted: May 18, 2009 2:10:00 PM

Our current tax revenues are sufficient. "No increase; maintain or reduce current funding." If a new road is being built and additional funds are needed, lets make it a toll road.
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leveit2clever
Champion Author Cleveland

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Message Posted: May 18, 2009 12:39:27 PM

A little of all the alternatives offered would probably be the least painful way of raising revenue.
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CrackedLCD
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: May 11, 2009 2:49:05 AM

Large trucks DO pay more. Diesel is taxed waay more than gas in most every place in the country. Those of us who drive diesel passenger vehicles are paying out the wazoo compared to gasser drivers.

I'm getting 30% better mileage so I guess 30% higher taxes makes up the difference. *sigh*

[Edited by: nedthenanite at 5/11/2009 2:49:46 AM EST]
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kh_edmonton
Sophomore Author Edmonton

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Message Posted: May 10, 2009 8:31:00 AM

Tax from: fuel,regestration,etc... is already supposed to go to road repairs.The biggest destruction of roads is the large trucks,why don't they pay more?Maybe the roads should be built properly the first time.
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adggjs
Rookie Author Michigan

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Message Posted: May 8, 2009 3:00:42 PM

Don346 has it right.

The Highway Trust Fund was to build and maintain roads.

In Michigan, the Legislature "raided" the Trust Fund.

If we cant "trust" the politicians, don't give them any more money.

We have to live with what we have.

How about government living within its means?

If there are smaller (lighter) vehicles on the road, they collect less fuel tax, but there is also less wear on the highways.

The TEA Party folks have it right.
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tutusun
Rookie Author Calgary

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Message Posted: May 8, 2009 1:21:15 PM

Increasing registration and other vehicle fees
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Don346
Rookie Author Ontario

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Message Posted: May 5, 2009 4:52:59 PM

Isn't gas tax dollars suppose to pay for road repairs etc...then put the money where it is suppose to go...problem solved.
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CrackedLCD
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2009 1:59:24 AM

The issue folks have with taxing each gallon is that if you and I both drive 36,000 miles a year (yeah I really do!) and my car gets 45 mpg and yours get 22 mpg you'll pay more for travelling the same distance.

Admittedly it isn't really fair but I look at it as a reward for buying a more fuel-efficient vehicle.
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66mustangfb
Champion Author Missouri

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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2009 11:47:43 PM

the most fair way to tax for road maintenance is a tax per gallon. Them its who uses the road pays for the road. No new taxes, its time they figure out how to get the most for there money. If you give them new taxes they will just spend it like they have the rest. Don't increase registration, or personal property taxes. I have a 2002 Corvette with 26,000 miles on it, and a 66 mustang fastbact that I drive twice the last 2 years. I has to be who uses the roads pay for the road so it has to be based on fuel consumption.
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dexter08
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2009 2:47:27 PM

no increase. the problem with raising taxes is that the regualr person is running out of money themselves. Putting more taxes on the backs of the average working person is not the solution.
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cougs
All-Star Author Ontario

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2009 6:03:03 AM

The problem is the money that is used to fuel the government at all levels is the consumer, they are running out of funds themselves.

The government as a whole needs to trim off their own fat and save money on governments waste then there is enough money to do whatever they want.

To create a new tax or toll (it is a tax), increase fuel tax (a tax), vehicle registration (a tax) is not a way to fix their own waste. No matter what you call it is a tax and most of the general public simply cannot afford another tax we are taxed far too much as it is.

We you start a new tax you simple cause inflation. As the taxes go up people need a raise in pay, then their product goes up and the people that buy it need a raise and so on.
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billzar
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2009 10:23:25 PM

Isn't it amazing that some people would rather dodge potholes and probably find a different way if bridges fall down or don't care if they fall down at all or if they fall down on someone else.
For one thing road construction materials cost more than they did 5 and 10 years ago, so it costs more to maintain our roads. Really?
Then you have weather that causes roads to deteriorate such as freeze-thaw cycles, rain, snow, excessive heat causing roads to expand and pop such as from the sun, etc. Really?
How about bridge corrosion on steel and concrete from ice melting salts that are needed to keep roadways and bridges free of ice and snow. Really?
How about vehicles models that get better gas mileage than they did several years ago. Less gallons at the pump, less gas tax, same miles of road travel. Really?
How about hybrid cars that don't fill up at the pump very often, they plug in to an outlet mostly, no gas taxes here. They still cause wear on the road. Really?
Less vehicles being sold in this wonderful economy, lots less motor vehicle excise sales taxes for roads. Really?
Quit being so cheap and pay for what you use!
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adggjs
Rookie Author Michigan

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2009 2:05:20 PM

First the Michigan politicians "raid" the Highway TRUST Fund for bus subsidies, bike trails (what about recreation funds?), law enforcement in cities that wont pay for their own, and rail subsidies.

Then they cry "poor" when there is insufficient money left to build and maintain highways.

Oh, lets get a "stimulus" -- that is "free" money (not).

And let's limit the consumers' choice of vehicles by government edict.

Isn't this what the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Parties were all about?
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2009 12:13:16 AM

No
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jb107
Champion Author New Jersey

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 10:42:24 PM

There is no one way to solve the problem, and there is a problem. Drive
on any Jersey highway and you will know it, and New York is much worse.
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dyeh
Champion Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 9:20:25 PM

Why not just privatize the highways?

The government gets badly needed $$ by selling off high-maintenance assets,
private industry is MUCH more efficient at cost containment and making sure roads and bridges are properly maintained (you can sue the companies, but you can't sue the government if a bridge collapses), and free markets can more efficiently price the tolls. Sure, short term the tolls will be higher, but the long term private tolls will be lower.
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Boonebuggy
Veteran Author New York City

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 8:25:41 PM

Take back highway funds that are allotted to public transportation
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ToriB
All-Star Author Washington

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 7:52:07 PM

Use funds from increasing registration fees for roads, etc., according to everyones pocketbook! Those driving caddies & hummers pay the most, as it should be!
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pkhdonovan
Champion Author Maine

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 6:41:59 PM

they need to learn to elimate wasteful spending and live within their means.
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DarthDadJr
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 6:10:41 PM

I can't believe it...after a week of voting, there is still 40%+ voting for same or REDUCE...I said it before and will say it again, learn to live with killer potholes and falling bridges.
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gasaholicNY
Rookie Author New York

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 6:05:19 PM

I think that in order to keep highway and road maintenance safe and current, there should be a general "income" or "sales" tax. The reason is because drivers who must commute to work by driving should not be penalized, nor should drivers who are taking a road trip vacation; We all buy and use merchandise so the transportation of these goods over roadways is essential to varying degrees. Therefore everyone should bear a small part of this taxation ! Whatever the answer is - it is "NOT" in increasing tolls !
Tollbooths are antediluvian and they slow down traffic, waste gas, and cause greater air pollution and "greenhouse gasses !

[Edited by: gasaholicNY at 4/18/2009 6:08:09 PM EST]
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roadkillGA
Champion Author Georgia

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 5:28:38 PM

Practical-use it pay.
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N9HVP
Champion Author Indiana

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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2009 5:12:07 PM

No increase; maintain or reduce current funding.
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